you look at romney, look at obama. do you see one who is using vulnerability better to make an impression on voters? >> what i -- you know what i see? i like to follow retion to things like the nvens, scoen wh see is that, you know, slick and shiny and overpromising does not play well anymore for us. i think we want people who stand -- i think we want to see ourselves reflected in our leader n, thiss hard.e, there's no easy answers. i wish i could bs you into believing there were, but there are not. here is how i want to move forward, this is what i think is important. i think we're ready for some rely denty se realne, and we want to see leaders whose lives and struggles are reflected, you know. we want to see ourselves reflected in their stories and experiences. i think we're done. i think -- i really think, you sear sixons befe 9/11, and so it's been a really powerful thing to watch kind of how this -- how we've changed as a culture over time, and i would say probably e word that defines the culture we live in right